Congressman Ron Paul on Healthcare


Having practiced for over 30 years, gives his on the past and future of in this country, and the effects of government and on quality, costs and access. … socialized free market

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25 Responses to “Congressman Ron Paul on Healthcare”

  1. bosstrav Says:

    I have a great health care provider. It’s called the second amendment. Keeps you from dying at the hands of thugs and tyrants.

  2. gantmaster Says:

    Its pretty ironic how he said that the US has one of the best healthcares in the world today and that socialized healthcare is bad.
    The US is on 37th place when it comes to healthcare and the best healthcare in world is in france and they have a socialized healtcare.

  3. oddcoupple Says:

    bobjman …
    subprime credits default is due to the simple fact that US workers ran out of money … The Wall Street’s subprime sistem of credit is useful to support the weak demand only to squeeze US citizens and workers.

    This is the collapse of the Friedman’s neoliberal economy…Thatcher & Reagan…Blair & Obama 30 years of neoliberal economic sistem leads to the probably end of the capitalism…Unless another Keynes will come to save it from its moby greed.

  4. WorldTravelDude Says:

    Before you call me ignorant for defending special interest and corporate lobbies just let me how much it costs to run election campaigns for any politician.

    If special interest and corporate lobbies are willing to offer 10s of millions of dollars to politicians to pay for elections campaigns why should not politicians defend financial and economic interests of special interest and corporate lobbies ?

  5. bobjman Says:

    I feel sorry for you. You seem to lack a grasp on basic economics. The ONLY reason this economy has totally collapsed and there isn’t massive starving and chaos in the US is because the Federal Reserve is supporting our very structurally damaged economy. Our creditors have made it clear they will not pay for an expansion of our health care. Raising capital gains to crush what’s left of the crumbled equity markets may cause the artificial system to fail permanently.

  6. bobjman Says:

    I feel very sorry for you. You seem to be very ignorant about how very similar the special interest and corporate lobbies are. You really should look into the deplorable, manipulative practices of the lobbies that you list before you defend the.

    Strange that you support the hands that crush you.

  7. oddcoupple Says:

    Rep,Teapartiers,Beck,Ron Paul are CEOcommunists…They want you pay your bloody rates to the CEOs gains and private health care bureaucracy!

    40 milions US uninsured citizens and US bailed out economy really need a National Health Care (Single Payer) founded by progressive tax (not flat tax) on the capital gains.

    Single Payer Now!

  8. Bonecrkr Says:

    The solution is almost commically simple. Outlaw all forms of insurance except major medical. You MUST pay out of pocket for routine medical care. If you can’t, you do without. The poor should have the government pay their premiums but they should have to pay for routine care out of pocket.

    ER visits for routine care should be forbidden. Care given to illegals should be forbidden. Legal immigrants should not be eligible for ANY welfare the first generation they are here.

  9. Bonecrkr Says:

    The absolute bottom line on healthcare costs is corruption. Only $1 out of every $12 (and that is a conservative estimate) goes towards care. The rest goes to pushing paper. Why? Because the government put an ocean of paperwork and managed care between doctors and patients in order to redistribute wealth via healthcare from those that earn wealth to those that do not. Various greedy individuals take a slice at every step until you have today’s ridiculous situation.

  10. tonybonez Says:

    Yeah so we can hear Osama bin Laden’s deep economic views right??

    He is after all an expert on economics, and we should model our economy off of what he says!!!!NOT!!!!

    The USA is the wealthiest most powerful country in the history of the planet!

  11. tonybonez Says:

    Why should health care be treated as different from any other good or service??????

  12. WorldTravelDude Says:

    So basically it is a double whammy for the US. There is smaller tax base because the size of middle class has shrunk considerably on the other hand the tax rate for wealthiest has dropped to lowest level in nearly 70 years.

  13. WorldTravelDude Says:

    The US had a pretty good position as long as it had a strong and a large middle-class. Tax for the middle class has not changed much for more than 4 decades however the level of pay they get from jobs has changed for worse and most of the jobs that paid good wages has been shipped abroad. While at the same time the tax for the highest income earners is at the lowest level since FDR.

  14. WorldTravelDude Says:

    I get pretty disgusted to see people slam interest groups like AARP, AMA , AHA , AHIP and so forth.

    These interest groups (lobby) need politicians to make laws that favor their specific industry or profession and politicians need these interest groups to fund their election campaigns. It is pretty mutually beneficial relationship.

  15. bobjman Says:

    That’s not the relevant issue though. The important issue is “why did the world keep the US as reserve after the Gold Standard was completely removed.?” The answer what I said below, at that time only the US had enough productive capacity and real wealth to support a world reserve through implicit taxation. After nearly 40’s of squandering our highly privileged position we have nothing to show for it, except huge SUV’s and IPODs. We’re only just beginning to feel the ill effects.

  16. WorldTravelDude Says:

    It was pretty natural that if some currency were to be tied to gold the currency was going to become a reserve currency for the rest of the world.

    If 100 $ were to equal to 100 gram of gold and give a govt backing it was pretty natural for govts around the world to see US $ as gold and start using it as reserve.

  17. bobjman Says:

    No, I’m specifically criticizing the US gov. for legitimizing the current price controls created by the American Medical Association and supported by the American Hospital Association. The major component of the high costs of health care result from the oligopic price fixing from the AMA, AHA, and insuance co. Cartel. It’s sad that the left can only see the weakest head of the 3-headed monster that is US healthcare. The AMA and AHA are out of bounds because their lobbies rival the Wall St. lobby

  18. bobjman Says:

    There’s much more to it than that. The world didn’t have to accept the dollar, but it needed the backing of an economy large enough to support world trade. The US econ. was the only one large enough at the time. The world didn’t have much of a choice then, that’s changing now though. With the advent of SDR’s/ the BRICs/China making the RMB more convertible, the world now has viable substitutes. You’re right about the confidence the world once had in the US’s history of price stability, though.

  19. bobjman Says:

    I’m sorry that you don’t understand the creditor/debtor of the relationship of China to the US and large parts of the Western world. They fund a major part of the US deficits and they’ve publicly complained that they do not wish to fund US health reform as they would have to along with our other creditors like they are the exists 1.5 Trillion USD deficit. The economy is too structurally weak to make up the difference by increased taxes alone.

  20. WorldTravelDude Says:

    Why the US Dollar became the reserve currency of the entire world. It’s pretty simple. The US was the last major economy to get out Gold Standard and to have it’s currency tied to gold to some level far later than every major economy severed all the ties between their currencies and gold .

  21. bobjman Says:

    There certainly are ways to measure wealth of a nation, you could look at at number of things, real assets, long term savings rate trends, manufacturing capacity, net savings etc. none are inclusive but they at least give an indication of economic health. By all those measures, the US is quite poor.

    The USD is the de facto reserve and has been since the end of Bretton Woods, but those days are coming to end. You should read real news; you should try Al-Jazeera. It’s better than 99% of US media

  22. WorldTravelDude Says:

    So you are basically slamming the govt for taking care of the most expensive demographic. It costs as much as 4 times more to give medical care to senior citizens when compared with rest or the demographics in any nation (not just he US).

    Lets see which private insurance company will be willing to insure the most expensive and the riskiest demographic of the entire population under your “free market”.

    I had no clue China was funding the single payer system of the entire industrialized world.

  23. WorldTravelDude Says:

    You wrote, “You cite the GDP per capita or even worse just the GDP. GDP figures have an illusion of completeness…”

    Does that mean there should be no way to measure productive capacity of people of different nations and keep everyone in the dark ?

    US currency is the world reserve: No nation forced the US to maintain ties with Gold Standard decades past the Great Depression. Every major economy got out of Gold Standard as soon as Great Depression hit hard.

  24. bobjman Says:

    You buy an HDTV with credit extended to you by bank who obtained that credit from the Fed for $500. USA’s GDP (C) rises $500.

    A Japanese manufacturer exports a finished HDTV for $500 dollars more than the cost of the imported raw materials used in production. Japans GDP (NX) rises $500.

    Do you think those situations equally contribute to wealth of a nation?

    The US is NOT a rich country, just the beneficiary of having the world reserve currency. Germany, etc. are FAR richer than the US.

  25. bobjman Says:

    You make a common error that those on the left often do: namely assuming that we’re rich. You cite the GDP per capita or even worse just the GDP. GDP figures have an illusion of completeness and comparability, but the reality is they miss fundamental components of the only nation whose domestic currency is the world reserve.

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